7/10/13

Mack Ade – PM Report – 7-10-13 – Bobby Parnell, Rule 5 Eligible, Shaun Marcum,


 

RP John Church was promoted from Binghamton to Las Vegas.

 

Ryan Kelly ‏@ryankelly  - Francesa says Red Sox (and others) want Bobby Parnell badly; Mets asked for Jackie Bradley, Jr. from Sox, who have said no.

This is the one area I like about Sandy Alderson. He seems to have a good sense of asking for more than he would be giving up. If you do that consistently, some turn into real deals. Bradley has much more long term upside than Parnell, though I would be happy with either of them. I do think the Mets need to get on with the business of putting a more potent lineup out there every day.

Bradley had a hard time with it when he came up for the first time, but who doesn’t (remember Dominic Brown?)

The best thing about the Francesa statement is ‘others’. There seems to be some action out there on Parnell so we’ll have to see if he’s the ‘definite no’ that Alderson said he was.

My guess in only David Wright and Matt Harvey have no trade tags on them right now.

 

Next winter’s Rule 5 eligible list has some interesting names on it. Thanks to Chris Walendin for passing it on to me –

Akeel Morris, Cory Mazzoni, Logan Verrett, Tyler Pill, Jack Leathersich, Cole Frenzel, Daniel Muno, Alex Panteliodis, Xorge Carrillo, Jonathan Clark, Travis Taijeron, Dustin Lawley, Casey Hauptman, Randy Fontanez, Chad Zurcher, Carlos Leyva, Seth Lugo, Chasen Bradford, Charley Thurber, Greg Pron, Edward Rohan, Julian Hilario, Rainy Lara, Yeixon Ruiz, Domingo Tapia, Anthony Chavez, Alberto Baldonado, Gabriel Ynoa, Maikis De La Cruz, Juan Carlos Gamboa, Michael Bernal, Persio Reyes, Jorge Rivero, Luis Mateo, Rafael Montero, T.J. Rivera, Beck Wheeler, Shane Bay, Noah Syndergaard

 

Ed Coleman said on WFAN that P Shaun Marcum is ‘done for the year’.

As Toby Hyde likes to say, ‘pitchers get hurt’. Sure, it turned out to be a bad sign, but it looked pretty good the day it happened. I’m not going to spend any time telling you this was a bad deal. It was what it was. The Mets needed a pitcher and Marcum was one of the guys that were out there. Sure, he came with some medical history, but what pitcher doesn’t after throwing 200,000 curveballs since high school.

Officially, it’s called Thoracic Outlet Syndrome and the surgery is on Monday. You’ve seen the last of him as a New York Met.

The Mets activated RP Gonzalez Germen and will convert Carlos Torres back to a starter until Jon Niese returns.

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Wasn't Steven matz supposed to be rule 5 eligible

Michael S. said...

Marcum was a worthwhile gamble.

I love how Sandy values his assets. Ask for the moon because the other teams aren't going to just offer it. If Parnell is really in demand, he'll net a top prospect. It's just going to have to go to the deadline. Teams blink when they get desperate. I'm not as enamored with JBJ as others. I want either Bogaerts or Castellanos from Detroit. They can either fit into the Mets plans or be lynchpins for another deal.

Charles said...

That list is wrong....it contains a lot of 2011 draftees.

Charles said...

I think half that list is wrong. Montero was signed in '11. Synder drafted in '10. It would be '09 draftees or signs.

Zozo said...

You would definitely have to keep at least 15 of them if that list is accurate. But holding onto that many would probably be impossible. We would have to trade some of them away so we don't lose them for nothing. I also remember that matz should be on that list as well.
We should be trading Parnell, Murphy and Byrd, cause they are not part of our future. I hope Sandy mess this up like he did last year with Hairston???

Charles said...

Exactly. There's no way the Mets could keep half of them if that was real. Mazzoni and half of them were drafted in the same year as Nimmo and Fulmer.

Now, I don't know when Tapia or Ynoa were signed so that could be interesting. I'm a little worried about Matz and Akeel Morris. I remember two years ago Mack was saying Morris could be a number one starter a d then he couldn't throw strikes. Now it seems as if he's figure it out. That's another good arm in a system that seems to keep coming up with them.

Mack Ade said...

The rule 5 list was given to me by a Mets blog friend... I assumed it was correct... I'm sorry if it wasn't

jonah said...

The Rule V Draft is held annually during baseball's Winter Meetings. Teams must file a 40-man roster with the league office by November 20. Any player who fits all of the criteria below is eligible for the Rule V Draft:
Player is not on the 40 man roster
Player has been in the minor leagues for at least 4 years if he was signed after age 19 (was 3 years before the 2006 CBA).
Player has been in the minor leagues for at least 5 years if he was signed before age 19 (was 4 years before the 2006 CBA).

To me that sounds that the 2010 draft class is eligible and the 2009 HS kids/IFA signings.

Mack Ade said...

As I said, the list was given to me by two trusted allies...

feel free to post your own version

The Closer said...

I found this on the link below, but I'm not 100% positive of its accuracy either.

ttp://tpgmets.blogspot.com/p/rule-5.html

The following players will be eligible for the Major League phase of the Rule 5 draft this coming winter (players in bold will be eligible for the first time). Teams can protect players from the Rule 5 draft by placing them on the 40-man roster. The deadline to add a player to the 40-man roster this year is November 20, 2013.

AAA --- Las Vegas 51s
Eric Campbell
Matt den Dekker
Darin Gorski
Kai Gronauer
Reese Havens
Jacob deGrom
Greg Peavey
Chris Schwinden

AA --- Binghamton Mets
Joe Bonfe
Darrell Ceciliani
John Church
Mark Cohoon
Allan Dykstra
Blake Forsythe
Erik Goeddel
Chase Huchingson
Adam Kolarek
Shawn Teufel
Cory Vaughn
Jeff Walters

A+ --- St. Lucie Mets
Hamilton Bennett
Marcos Camarena
TJ Chism
Albert Cordero
Angel Cuan
Jim Fuller
Gilbert Gomez
Brian Harrison
Cam Maron
Estarlin Morel
Aderlin Rodriguez
Rylan Sandoval
Robbie Shields
Carlos Vazquez
Taylor Whitenton

A --- Savannah Sand Gnats
Hunter Carnavale
Luis Cessa
Yucary De La Cruz
Jeff Glenn
Steven Matz
Bret Mitchell
Eudy Pina
Nelfi Zapata

Other
Martires Arias
Cristian Chivilli
Miller Diaz
Zach Dotson
Josh Dunn
Ramon Estevez
Ryan Fraser
Darwin Frias
Carlos Gomez
Michael Johnson
Alex Machillanada
John Mincone
Adam O'Neill
Flabio Ortega
Travis Ozga
Eris Peguero
Andres Perez
AJ Pinera
Dimas Ponce
Luis Rengel
Alex Sanchez
Ismael Tijerina
Jhonathan Torres
Juan Urbina
Carlos Valdez
Edioglas Villasmil
Ernesto Yanez


Players are naturally protected from the Rule 5 draft 4 times if they were younger than 19 on the June 5th immediately prior to the date on which they signed their first contract, and 3 times if they were age 19 or older. If they signed their first contract after the end of the season (for the team to which they're assigned), then their natural Rule 5 protection extends an additional year.

Mack Ade said...

This is from someone named "Chris"... the SAME guy that sent me the list I printed...

go figure

Chris Walendin said...

The list I e-mailed Mack, which he uses in this post, is the list of Mets who will be first time Rule 5 eligible in NEXT year's draft, i.e. the draft that takes place in December of 2014. The list that was posted in the comments section by "The Closer" (from my site) is the list for THIS year's draft, which will take place in December of 2013 (though I haven't updated in awhile). Hopefully, that clears up the confusion.