1/11/18

Mack - Brooks Baseball on the Mets Rotation



 Brooks Baseball is considered the premier online site for baseball stats.\

Let’s look at what they say about the Mets rotation:

Noah Syndergaard:  (I love this line) “His sinker (99.78 mph) is thrown at a speed that's borderline unfair. His slider (95.11 mph) is thrown extremely hard, is a real worm killer that generates an extreme number of groundballs compared to other pitchers' sliders, has much less depth than expected and generates more whiffs/swing compared to other pitchers' sliders. His change (92.48 mph) is thrown extremely hard, generates an extremely high number of swings & misses compared to other pitchers' changeups, has a lot of backspin and has slight armside fade. His curve (86.86 mph) is thrown extremely hard, has very little depth and results in somewhat more flyballs compared to other pitchers' curves. His fourseam fastball (100.19 mph) is a real worm killer that generates an extreme number of groundballs compared to other pitchers' fourseamers, is thrown at a speed that's borderline unfair, generates more whiffs/swing compared to other pitchers' fourseamers, has slightly less natural movement than typical and has some added backspin.

Jacob deGrom - His fourseam fastball (96.35 mph) generates an extremely high number of swings & misses compared to other pitchers' fourseamers, has well above average velo and has slightly less natural movement than typical. His slider (90.43 mph) is thrown extremely hard, has less than expected depth and results in somewhat more groundballs compared to other pitchers' sliders. His sinker (96.24 mph) is blazing fast, generates more whiffs/swing compared to other pitchers' sinkers and has little sinking action compared to a true sinker. His change (89.08 mph) is thrown extremely hard. His curve (83.26 mph) is much harder than usual, has little depth, has primarily 12-6 movement and results in somewhat more flyballs compared to other pitchers' curves.

Matt Harvey - His fourseam fastball (94.02 mph) has slight armside run and has slightly above average velo. His slider(88.94)  is thrown extremely hard, generates a very high amount of groundballs compared to other pitchers' sliders, has much less depth than expected and has primarily 12-6 movement. His change (86.82 mph) is slightly firmer than usual and has slight armside fade. His curve (82.37 mph) has primarily 12-6 movement, has little depth, is slightly harder than usual and results in somewhat more groundballs compared to other pitchers' curves.

Steven Matz - His sinker (93.52 mph) generates more whiffs/swing compared to other pitchers' sinkers, has well above average velo and results in somewhat more flyballs compared to other pitchers' sinkers. His curve (79.37 mph) is basically never swung at and missed compared to other pitchers' curves, results in many more groundballs compared to other pitchers' curves and is slightly harder than usual. His change (84.10 mph) results in many more groundballs compared to other pitchers' changeups, is slightly firmer than usual, has slight armside fade and has some natural sink to it. His slider (86.94 mph) is basically never swung at and missed compared to other pitchers' sliders, results in more flyballs compared to other pitchers' sliders, is much harder than usual and has primarily 12-6 movement.

Zack Wheeler - His fourseam fastball (95.41 mph) results in many more groundballs compared to other pitchers' fourseamers and has well above average velo. His sinker (94.99 mph) has well above average velo and has little sinking action compared to a true sinker. His slider (88.65 mph) is thrown extremely hard, has less than expected depth, has primarily 12-6 movement and results in somewhat more groundballs compared to other pitchers' sliders. His curve (79.70 mph) generates fewer whiffs/swing compared to other pitchers' curves, has primarily 12-6 movement and results in somewhat more flyballs compared to other pitchers' curves. His change (88.63 mph) is thrown extremely hard and has a lot of backspin.

12 comments:

Unknown said...

Are we all saving our pennies for World Series tickets cause now all we need is health from these guys and that's not asking for much....right?

Tom Brennan said...

Cue up the movie title: "Extremely Hard and Extremely Fast"

Hopefully, we can add extremely durable.

We need healthy extremists on the mound at Citifield.

Mack Ade said...

Gary -

I'm not saving my pennies for any Mets games in 2017

Reese Kaplan said...

@Tom -- if you are counting on a full season of health from this rotation then I think the movie you want to queue up is, "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"

:)

Mack Ade said...

Reese -

I happen to think that these five guys plus Lugo, Gsellman, Montero, and Flexen works for us here.

Eddie from Corona said...

Based on this assessment we have the greatest staff of all time...
This reads as a prospect potential analysis... problem is that we’ve seen all of them pitch in the majors... Degrom has had issues with velocity in the past so those velocity basis seem high. And we’ve all seen Harvey matz and wheeler and hitters don’t seem to have issues with hitting them...

Reese Kaplan said...

@Mack -- I don't doubt the talent. I doubt the health. I am open minded about newer (and smarter) guys in charge in the dugout wresting more ability out of the latter four than the great demotivator put out to pasture.

bgreg98180 said...

The rotation has generated tremendous hype which has carried them through disappointing collective results (due to injury) for the past few years.
It is time for the rotation to put up, for a full season, or shut up.

Prove it before the accolades.

Christopher Soto said...

@Eddie Corona

Brooks Baseball measures on hard facts that have already occurred, not potential.

This commentary shown in the post is SOLELY based on Pitch F/X data collected in 2017 ONLY.

Christopher Soto said...

@Eddie Corona

In reference to deGrom's velocity issues...That really only occurred in 2016, which was attributable to the Ulnar Nerve issue. In addition, it was more related to his "maximum" output as he was only able to max out at 96-97 vs prior seasons of 98-99mph.

His average velocity throughout his career hasn't really fluctuated that much.

2014: 94-95mph, Max 97-98mph
2015: 95-96mph, Max 98-99mph
2016: 93-95mph, Max 96-97mph
2017: 96-96mph, Max 98-99mph

Mike Freire said...

I am cautiously optimistic when you combine the natural talent (listed above), with a new manager who is a "pitching whisperer" and a new emphasis on sports medicine.

It could be special....finally.

Christopher Soto said...

Btw this line right here.....is the exact reason why I thought Matz was not healthy.

"....His curve (79.37 mph) is basically never swung at and missed compared to other pitchers' curves"

That is WAYYYYYYY off base in comparison to what we have seen in his past MLB career and MiLB career. Matz has always had one of the better curveballs we have seen in the organization. His ulnar nerve issue probably had a TON to do with that inability to really "snap" it